Relevance in Krsna Consciousness
Jyotish-shastra is considered the eyes for civilized human beings to see past, present and future. In present society, people live more or less the life in complete ignorance. There is no knowledge of soul, God, this world in which we live and how things function by the laws of nature. There is no university, school or facility to educate all these things systematically. The net result is ignorant masses guided by ignorant leaders in all field.
Jyotish-shastra is a perfect and very intricate science based on mathematical calculations. In this there is calculations of different stars and the effect of their position on lives of individuals, collective impact (may be on community, nation or whole world), on weather etc. So a perfect astrologer educated in particular branch of astrology, can give precise predictions. This job was done by brahmanas in Vedic society.
The use of this science is very wide and of utmost importance if one is interested in reviving the Varnashram division of society as spoken by Lord Krishna in Bhagavad-Gita, “According to the three modes of material nature and the work associated with them, the four divisions of human society are created by Me.” This was also the desire of the founder acharya of ISKCON society – His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
This is very meaningful tool in the lives of all the varna and ashrams. The householders have esp. significance of this in their lives. It is the duty of every parent to make the note of the newborn’s date, time of birth & place to make the horoscope and also know the future of the child. This not helps the parents to plan the future of child, but also prepare parents to meet the challenges they might have to face in bringing up the child.
Many people (in catagory of atheist and also firm believer in god, soul etc.) think that there is no need of astrology. If that was the case, then all the great personalities as we learn from our ancient scriptures, would not have used this science. For example, from Srimad-Bhagavatam we understand that when King Parikshit was born, his grandfather King Yudhishthir called for learned astrologers for the future predictions of child’s life. When Lord Chaitanya was born, His parents called for learned astrologers including Nilambar Chakravati Thakur (maternal grandfather of Lord Chaitanya) and they made predictions about Lord Chaitanya. Also from life of Srila Prabhupada as he himself told many times to his followers, when he was born, his parents got his horoscope made and the predictions were made about his life and mission.
Here are few quotes from Srila Prabhupada on astrology.
“Astrologer, a perfect astrologer is called sarvajna. Sarvajna means he knows past, present and future. A real astrologer means he will tell you about your past life and he will tell you about your present life and your future life also. There is a system of astrology in India which is called Bhrgu-samhita. Any man will go, and if the expert in Bhrgu-samhita science, he will at once tell you what you were in your past life, how you are acting in this present life, and what is your next life. Therefore, perfection of astrology is in the Bhrgu-samhita, and they is called sarvajna. In old Indian system, as soon as child is born, an expert astrologer will be called forth and there will be ceremony, jata-karma, just after the birth. Just like, before giving birth to the child, there was some ceremony which is called garbhadhana ceremony, and between the birth-giving ceremony and the child is born, there are two other ceremonies, sadhavakan. So after the birth of the child, the astrologer is called forth and he begins to tell about the future of the boy.”
“In my horoscope it is written there, “At the age of seventy years he will go across the sea.” It is written there. Yes. And there are so many things still. So this astrologer was so accurate. I have got that horoscope. Not here. If some day I shall, then will show. It is clearly written there that “This time he will go across the sea.” Just see. The circumstances became so that I have come. So astrology is so nice.”
“A boy likes another girl, and the girl likes another boy. That’s finished. Let them become husband and wife. Formerly, it was not. Formerly, according to Vedic civilization, there was no liking of the boy or the girl. The parents of the boy and the girl, they would see, “Whether this combination will be happy.” They will bring horoscope and calculate astronomically, “What is the symptoms of this boy? What is the symptoms of this girl? Whether they will be peaceful in married life?”
Woman (1): Is astrology of any importance to a way of life, I mean… Prabhupada: Yes. This is a science. Yes. This is a science. It is a science. That science is acceptable by the human society. Medical science, legal science, engineering science. Similarly, astrology also, another science. But the astrology is simply useful so long you have got this body. But as soon as your body is finished, there is no more use of astrology.
During marriage ceremony, the family consideration is very strong. Now that is dwindling. Formerly, family traditions, then horoscope. The so-called love was not given any importance, the so-called love. As in other countries the boys select wife or girls selects No. There is no importance on this. The father, mother will see the horoscope, whether this boy and girl will agree according to the horoscope. Raja-yoga(?) There are
some calculations, astronomical calculations, from his birth, from her birth, and the expert astrologer will select, “Yes, this boy and this girl will be happy.” Then they are married. If there is any discrepancy, they will deny, “No.” These were the considerations. Then family tradition. What is the tradition of the boy’s father’s family, mother’s family, so many things they calculate, then the marriage settlement, “Yes.” And the boy might not have seen the girl. There is no necessity of the boy seeing the girl or the girl seeing the boy. There is no necessity. After marriage, when the marriage ceremony is performed, then the boy and girl can see one another: “Oh, she is my wife.” (laughter) “He is my husband.”
These things are stated. “Husband and wife will keep together so long their sex power is strong. Otherwise they will divorce.” This is written. Svikaram eva hi udvahe: “Marriage will be performed simply by agreement.” According to Vedic system, marriage is a long program. The father of the girl and the boy first of all select. Then their horoscope should be consulted, how they will mix together, and then the family, then personal qualification, so many things. Then dowry… After all this consideration, when everything is satisfactory, then the father and mother of both sides will agree, and they will be married. That is marriage. Now, at the present moment in Kali-yuga, it is said, svikaram eva hy udvahe. Boys and girls will loiter in the street and two of them, as they agree, “Yes, we will live together.” That’s all. Bas. This is stated. And that is happening.
Svarupa Damodara: Srila Prabhupada, are these astrologers, ah, are, can we believe in them, what they say? Called pseudo-science. Prabhupada: No. Astrology is a science. [break] …that I shall go to the foreign countries and throughout the whole world I will establish so many temples, so many things… this… Svarupa Damodara: So they have some intelligence to tell that… Prabhupada: No, no. That is calculation, calculation. This astrologer, this astrologer was a very big astrologer and when I was in service, Dr. Bose’s laboratory, so Dr. Bose was treating one patient. He was vomiting blood. So he was treating as tuberculosis. Then he could not cure him after giving all medicine. Then he asked the astrologer, this astrologer who made my horoscope, “What is the matter? Panditji, can you tell?” So he calculated. He said, “You are making wrong treatment. He has got some sore in the
throat. It is not heart.” And he treated, he was cured. Yasomatinandana: Vedic science is so perfect. Prabhupada: Yes. He knew it.
Jayahari: Prabhupada, this morning you talked about astrology in your lecture. Is this accepted in the Vedic scripture and by the gurus? Prabhupada: Oh yes. Astrology means… That is also Vedic. Jyotir-veda. Jyotir-veda. That is also part of the Vedas. The brahmanas, they learn these three things: astrology and medicine. These two things. A brahmanas is supposed to go to every householder’s place, and he will inform, “Today is such and such tithi. The such and such thing should be done.” And if required, if somebody inquires about, “Now I am going to that place. What will happen? Just find out the auspicious moment,” so they will give him. Still it is current. It may be wrongly done or rightly, but the system is still there. Astrologer. The king should be always accompanied by a first-class astrologer. [break] …there is a whole street, both sides simply astrology. [break] …good astrologers.
It is still, such kind of astrology there in India. They will speak what you were in your last birth and what you are now, and what you will be in your next birth. That is astrology. So still there are Bhrgu-samhita. Anyone go, and you simply give them your exact time of birth, then they will make immediately horoscope, immediately. Still there is. As I told you that in my horoscope it was declared that after seventieth year, I shall go to foreign countries and I shall establish many temples. In my horoscope that is. Now I see it is coming practically. You see? So that is horoscope.
When Parikshit Maharaja was born, so… I have told you already. Learned scholars in astrology, they were calculating the horoscope of the newly born child. So he was being
described that “This child, this baby now born, he will be hero like this. He will be devotee like this. He’ll be…” This horoscope made, in future what he will be. So Maharaja Yudhishthira was anxious and he informed the learned brahmanas that “This is all right. I thank you for your calculation. First of all, I want to know whether he will follow his forefathers. I want to know.” That was the question.
Formerly, boys and girls of similar dispositions were married; the similar natures of the boy and girl were united in order to make them happy. Not more than twenty-five years ago, and perhaps it is still current, parents in India used to consult the horoscope of the boy and girl to see whether there would be factual union in their psychological conditions. These considerations are very important. Nowadays marriage takes place without such consultation, and therefore, soon after the marriage, there is divorce and separation. Formerly husband and wife used to live together peacefully throughout their whole lives, but nowadays it is a very difficult task.
Shudra has only one samskara—marriage. And the brahmanas, kshatriya, vaishya, they have got dasha-vidha-samskara. Before birth, when the child is in the womb, there is ceremony. Then when he is born there is ceremony. Then he’s little more, little more… Just like Parikshit Maharaja, when he was born, immediately all the brahmanas came. Jata-karma ceremony. A child is born. There will be some puja, …, and then there will be horoscope made immediately, in what moment this child is born, what will be his feature. All the brähmaëas made immediately horoscope. You’ll find in this Bhägavata. This is called samskara. Not that like cats and dogs they are born without any samskara, and because he is born in a certain family he becomes brahmanas, kshatriya, vaishya. No.